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 Post subject: Small Maps Groups Tournament
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:35 am 
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Hello, everybody!

In this topic will be published all the information about Small Maps Groups Tournament.

Here you could watch the list of players ordered by glicko-points score and the tournament filled table.

In attached image you can see the whole structure of the tournament and the award associated to it.

Numbers in A-D Groups means the position of players after the first phase in 1-8 Groups. According to the rules, only the 2 first scored players will pass to next phase.

I hope this will be a great tournament for all of us!


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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:07 am 
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How do you usually seed (sort) different players into groups? Like FIFA does, using baskets? For example, four baskets, each basket contains 8 players with close glicko rating. So, in one group could be only one player from top 10 grands, one player from 10-20 glicko rating, one from 20-30, and the fourt player the weakest one?


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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:27 am 
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Botanik wrote:
How do you usually seed (sort) different players into groups? Like FIFA does, using baskets? For example, four baskets, each basket contains 8 players with close glicko rating. So, in one group could be only one player from top 10 grands, one player from 10-20 glicko rating, one from 20-30, and the fourt player the weakest one?


We have a ordered list of players on basis of "glicko-points" score.

Players will be included on groups with this format:

Player nº 1 to group 1, 2 to group 2, 8 to group 8.... nº 9 to group 8 too, 10 to group 7, etc.....16 to group 1, 17 to group 1 too, 18 to group 2....24 to group 8, 25 to group 8 too, 26 to group 7 until 32 to group 1.

It is like a "Snake" distribution :)

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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:48 am 
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Have you ever counted the overall glicko rating of such groups resulting from "snake distribution"? May be there is some disbalance? If it is not counted, do it this time - and we`ll see, if there is a big disproportion or not.

Then, in Rules only 10 days are given for the first stage. So, does it mean that I should play all 6 games of first stage within 10 days? As for me, it is a rather hard schedule, because I`m not a young boy spending all time with the laptop.

The tournament is really interesting for me, really, but I can make maximum 2 turns in each game per day, excluding weekend. Maybe it will be enough, 20 turns per 10 days to end a game on a small map? What do you think with your experience?


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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
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Botanik wrote:
Have you ever counted the overall glicko rating of such groups resulting from "snake distribution"? May be there is some disbalance? If it is not counted, do it this time - and we`ll see, if there is a big disproportion or not.


Snake distribution is only a way for do it, but let us have a clean format...in Group 1 we will have players number 1, 16, 17 and 32 and in Group 4 players number 4, 13, 20 and 29....What is the best balanced group? Both of them in my opinion.

A list with too many high-glicko player and some very low glicko give us a overall glicko clearly irreal. Player number 13 will be closer of numbers 12 and 14 that of numbers 4 or 35, for example, with independence of the glicko.


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Then, in Rules only 10 days are given for the first stage. So, does it mean that I should play all 6 games of first stage within 10 days? As for me, it is a rather hard schedule, because I`m not a young boy spending all time with the laptop.

The tournament is really interesting for me, really, but I can make maximum 2 turns in each game per day, excluding weekend. Maybe it will be enough, 20 turns per 10 days to end a game on a small map? What do you think with your experience?


Time limit is a thing that I always try to explain to "newbie" players on tournaments. The key of the time is the "frozen" hours, usually 23 hours in all the tournaments.
What means 10 days with 23 frozen hours?

It is really simple!. From your opponent's move you have 23 hours for play before your time start to decrease. If you play all the days your time never will decrease! :)
If you play after 1 day and 6 hours from opponent's move your time will decrease in 7 hours....(24+6) - 23
And of course, you have that 23 frozen hours for all your moves!

I hope see you finally in the tournament. Like you can read in other tournament's topics of this forum, players usually repeat the experience and this format was really good in Medium Maps Groups that recently finished with a deserved victory for my friend happygrue :)

Thank you for your interest in the game and tournament!

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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
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Thank you for the explanation, tese1969.
Now it is all clear to me regarding the time ruling. If I make a move at least once in 23 hours, I lose nothing of time.It`s rather comfortable for me.
You can sign me for the tournament. I`m in.
P.S. These 10 days are for all the tournament long or are given only for the first stage and then when going to the second stage, they are recovered if some are spent?


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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:19 am 
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Botanik wrote:
You can sign me for the tournament. I`m in.
P.S. These 10 days are for all the tournament long or are given only for the first stage and then when going to the second stage, they are recovered if some are spent?

You must join the tournament from tournaments section on MAN2 website. If you have some problem for do it, tell me, please.

And of course, each phase start with that time because that is the time when the games are started.

Remember that for pass to next phase in this tournament you must to rank 1st or 2nd in your group :)

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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:35 pm 
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Well, my friends....

Finally we are 30 players in the tournament list and therefore there are 2 groups with 3 players. A pity we can't add 2 more players for fill the table.

In attached images you can see the list of players ordered by glicko-points score and the table with the groups included.

Games of phase 1 (Station Thunder) will start on Friday, Nov 3.

Remember that the 2 first scored players of each group pass to next phase.

I wish you good luck and please, enjoy the game!


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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
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GL and HF to all!!


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 Post subject: Re: Small Maps Groups Tournament
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SMALL MAPS GROUPS TABLE UPDATED ON: Dec, 10


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